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GTD 'cult'

so a friend of mine sent me this message. I am a big fan of GTD and find it very useful. I'm just puttin' this out there.

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I was excited to sit down to read "Getting Things Done" today. It's a great gift. I was so excited that I even read the acknowledgments, to be complete about the whole thing. At the end of the acknowledgments I noticed that David Allen thanks someone named "J-R" for being his "spiritual coach."

Uh-oh. "J-R" seemed like it might stand for John-Roger -- the controversial cult leader and spiritual guru. And it does.

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/msia.html

David Allen, his wife, and many of his employees are ministers in the MSIA (Movement of Spritual Inner Awareness), John-Roger's church:

http://www.ndh.org/template.php3?ID=65 http://www.davidco.com/coaches_corner/Ana_Maria_Gonz%E1lez/article14.html (employee quoting John-Roger)

Anti-cult websites accuse GTD of being part of a program to recruit people into MSIA. Their view seems paranoid to me, but you can read it for yourself:

http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=2193 http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?p=15025&sid=e3195755a2185f9b4710580921d3f527

Now, I'm not saying that Getting Things Done isn't a good book about priorities and organization. David Allen may have very good advice about that stuff. But I am saying don't go to a David Allen seminar, get mixed up with the David Allen Company, or get too involved with the hard-core GTD crowd -- at least not without taking some anti-brainwashing measures. Seriously. This John-Roger character and his followers are not a joke.

I learned about John-Roger a long time ago, as it happens, because in high school I read a self-help book called "Life 101" that he "co-wrote" with Peter McWilliams, the poet and anti-drug-war activist. In 1994, not long after I read "Life 101," McWilliams wrote an expose called "Life 102: What to Do When Your Guru Sues You." McWilliams left MSIA in 1994 after 15 years of being brainwashed. It turned out that John-Roger manipulated him into giving him co-authorship in return for keeping McWilliams alive. You see, John-Roger had the power to keep McWilliams alive because -- and this will surprise you -- John-Roger claims to be the incarnation of God on earth.

John-Roger has also made headlines in connection with Arianna Huffington -- who admits to being a close friend and who has been accused (though she's never admitted it) of being an MSIA minister as well.

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... A couple more points. These...

FreeWilly;6012 wrote:
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A couple more points.
These groups like MSIA, or Scientology, do NOT try to get everyone. They look for folks who are compliant, people who are "looking for something", people who are vulnerable.
MSIA does what is called "Love-Bombing", which is a type of emotional sensory overload for vulnerable people, and here is a creepy photo of one. (it might be David Allen on the left). (also note that John-Roger refuses to let all those MSIA followers touch him!)
http://www.ndh.org/slideshow.php3?category=AUG2003_SUPER2&id=57&srcnum=431

Omigod! It's a Group Hug! Wait! Are they ... smiling???

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Here is David Allen doing a one-on-one Love Bomb...(notice all the sexy photos, this is done for obvious recruiting reasons!)
http://www.ndh.org/slideshow.php3?category=AUG2003_SUPER2&id=43&srcnum=431

They're ... dancing! Alert the press!

Okay, at the risk of starting all this up to go nowhere again...

I really want to know how you see following GTD can be a dangerous slippery slope toward MSIA and how MSIA leads you quicker to hell than, say, Christianity. I'm reading your posts, trying to understand what you see that is so malignant that you feel compelled to post in different GTD forums.

In short, what happened? Did you get brainwashed? Was someone you know brainwashed? What happened? Specifically, and, if possible, in 500 words or less. Specifically and succinctly. That's what I'm trying to say. Succinctly.

 
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