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GTD 'cult'

so a friend of mine sent me this message. I am a big fan of GTD and find it very useful. I'm just puttin' this out there.

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I was excited to sit down to read "Getting Things Done" today. It's a great gift. I was so excited that I even read the acknowledgments, to be complete about the whole thing. At the end of the acknowledgments I noticed that David Allen thanks someone named "J-R" for being his "spiritual coach."

Uh-oh. "J-R" seemed like it might stand for John-Roger -- the controversial cult leader and spiritual guru. And it does.

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/msia.html

David Allen, his wife, and many of his employees are ministers in the MSIA (Movement of Spritual Inner Awareness), John-Roger's church:

http://www.ndh.org/template.php3?ID=65 http://www.davidco.com/coaches_corner/Ana_Maria_Gonz%E1lez/article14.html (employee quoting John-Roger)

Anti-cult websites accuse GTD of being part of a program to recruit people into MSIA. Their view seems paranoid to me, but you can read it for yourself:

http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=2193 http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?p=15025&sid=e3195755a2185f9b4710580921d3f527

Now, I'm not saying that Getting Things Done isn't a good book about priorities and organization. David Allen may have very good advice about that stuff. But I am saying don't go to a David Allen seminar, get mixed up with the David Allen Company, or get too involved with the hard-core GTD crowd -- at least not without taking some anti-brainwashing measures. Seriously. This John-Roger character and his followers are not a joke.

I learned about John-Roger a long time ago, as it happens, because in high school I read a self-help book called "Life 101" that he "co-wrote" with Peter McWilliams, the poet and anti-drug-war activist. In 1994, not long after I read "Life 101," McWilliams wrote an expose called "Life 102: What to Do When Your Guru Sues You." McWilliams left MSIA in 1994 after 15 years of being brainwashed. It turned out that John-Roger manipulated him into giving him co-authorship in return for keeping McWilliams alive. You see, John-Roger had the power to keep McWilliams alive because -- and this will surprise you -- John-Roger claims to be the incarnation of God on earth.

John-Roger has also made headlines in connection with Arianna Huffington -- who admits to being a close friend and who has been accused (though she's never admitted it) of being an MSIA minister as well.

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The people who have designed...

FreeWilly;6052 wrote:

The people who have designed GTD, and the entire system, know exactly what they are doing to people, and how to send out the hook, land the fish, and then real them in.
And if you think you are above being had, or are "too intelligent" to fall for it...

...those are exactly the type of educated white-collar folks they are targeting.

Really?! Now that I have the basic methodology down I have no interest in buying into the whole package (special Davidco membership, etc.). The whole GTD phenomenon on the web is very decentralized and do-it-yourself. Anyone interested in learning the method could easily avoid both the book and the website. In making the rounds of the web, this cultural meme seems to have been pretty much debugged of the vague, sinister cult manipulation alleged in your posts. The nuts and bolts really do seem to be common sense organizational principles.

While cults run by control-freaks are undoubtedly a problem, there's also a somewhat hysterical anti-cult culture that's made it's home on the web. This whole discussion reminds me a little bit of the general on Dr. Strangelove, who was convinced that flouride in drinking water was sapping his precious bodily fluids. While I appreciate knowing about David Allen's connections with MSIA, I am confident that GTD is not a "hook" for some cult leader to inflitrate the inner recesses of my mind.

 
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