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GTD 'cult'
duus | Sep 5 2006
so a friend of mine sent me this message. I am a big fan of GTD and find it very useful. I'm just puttin' this out there. [INDENT] Uh-oh. "J-R" seemed like it might stand for John-Roger -- the controversial cult leader and spiritual guru. And it does. http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/msia.html David Allen, his wife, and many of his employees are ministers in the MSIA (Movement of Spritual Inner Awareness), John-Roger's church: http://www.ndh.org/template.php3?ID=65 http://www.davidco.com/coaches_corner/Ana_Maria_Gonz%E1lez/article14.html (employee quoting John-Roger) Anti-cult websites accuse GTD of being part of a program to recruit people into MSIA. Their view seems paranoid to me, but you can read it for yourself: http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?t=2193 http://forum.rickross.com/viewtopic.php?p=15025&sid=e3195755a2185f9b4710580921d3f527 Now, I'm not saying that Getting Things Done isn't a good book about priorities and organization. David Allen may have very good advice about that stuff. But I am saying don't go to a David Allen seminar, get mixed up with the David Allen Company, or get too involved with the hard-core GTD crowd -- at least not without taking some anti-brainwashing measures. Seriously. This John-Roger character and his followers are not a joke. I learned about John-Roger a long time ago, as it happens, because in high school I read a self-help book called "Life 101" that he "co-wrote" with Peter McWilliams, the poet and anti-drug-war activist. In 1994, not long after I read "Life 101," McWilliams wrote an expose called "Life 102: What to Do When Your Guru Sues You." McWilliams left MSIA in 1994 after 15 years of being brainwashed. It turned out that John-Roger manipulated him into giving him co-authorship in return for keeping McWilliams alive. You see, John-Roger had the power to keep McWilliams alive because -- and this will surprise you -- John-Roger claims to be the incarnation of God on earth. John-Roger has also made headlines in connection with Arianna Huffington -- who admits to being a close friend and who has been accused (though she's never admitted it) of being an MSIA minister as well. [/INDENT] 72 Comments
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I'll just add a couple...Submitted by FreeWilly on September 21, 2006 - 11:03am.
I'll just add a couple more points, as I am short of time, but perhaps I can come back later. I think some folks have the mistaken idea that "cults" are all bald-headed tambourine thumping wackjobs. Not any more. There are many white-collar global organizations which are highly sophisticated, and who use dozens of very subtle and POWERFUL techniques to draw people into their groups, for many reasons. Usually to make money, but also for other reasons. (sex, power, etc) So why is every key member of DavidCo a high-level member of MSIA? You will notice some strangeness, and serious lack of disclosure with David Allen. Sadly, him doing this has only hurt his own reputation and credibility. For instance, David Allen is very vague about his past doing "consulting". Its clear now that he has been working for MSIA, doing all sorts of seminars for them, for the past decades. So I consider it dishonest, and a serious lack of disclosure, for him to "twist" his words, and "forget" to mention that he has been working for MSIA linked companies for decades. Why does he do this? Also, it is strange how David Allen was mentioning his new toys, etc. Because in GTD Fast, he talks about how he never thought he'd be living that kind of life. Why? What does that mean? Also, all the pieces come together with MSIA. David Allen talks about learning to play the flute. ok, whatever. Also, MSIA owns countless front companies, and businesses. But getting more specific, groups like MSIA have many purposes. One of them is to MAKE MONEY. Obviously, GTD is a corporate MSIA arm, to make money. Jason Womack, who is a coach with DavidCo, is MSIA. He also constantly recommends books by John-Roger. That's it right there. That's all it takes. The J-R, MSIA books and many other programs are very carefully designed to bring people in, one baby-step at a time. David Allen has just launched such a service called GTD Connect. A couple more points. Here is David Allen doing a one-on-one Love Bomb...(notice all the sexy photos, this is done for obvious recruiting reasons!) Why does MSIA post this stuff? Because its all recruiting stuff. They practice deception and hide what is going on behind the scenes, yet at the same time need to leave some "clues" to attract "seekers". That is how they grow, recruit, recruit, recruit. And John-Roger is not benign. He has done some truly horrendous things. If all of DavidCo's coaches are MSIA, then they should identify themselves as such when they are recommending books by their Leader J-R. Jason Womack needs to come out of the MSIA closet, and come clean. But MSIA will not let them do that. Also, trying to do the entire GTD system can drive you nuts, and leads people into needing coaching. Don't bother with trying to do the "entire system". If you have been struggling for ages trying to "do the whole Monty", then just drop it. Dump it, trash it. The so-called total system is not what it is sold to be. You might feel an enormous weight dropped off your shoulders when you junk the "entire system". Also, be very careful when your GTD coach starts making suggestions. This is why DavidCo has suppressed the info about the MSIA connection. Simple knowledge about makes their job about 100x harder, as people get suspicious. The fault for this is David Allen's conscious decision to not come clean about all this right up front. But that is how MSIA works, they have no problem lying about whatever it takes, to do what they need to do, and usually have some self-righteous justification for it. But that's what makes groups like MSIA into a "cult", because they have to use deception to try and get to people. Now these days, they are also using all kinds of "mind-f*ck" techniques on people, its down to a complex science at this point. MSIA also has tons of followers who have used the Internet to promote GTD using covert viral marketing. Some of the blog guys who have promoted GTD, are linked with GTD in business, and even MSIA. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Orchant/index.php?p=196 (from above website) [="Red"]"That same former employer recently sponsored a two-day GTD workshop for a select group of teachers here in New Mexico and I had the good fortune to work with Wayne Pepper, one of DavidCo's coaches, in making that event a great success. Finally, I fully intend to expose as many of my new compatriots at Foldera to GTD as I can." [/] Wayne Pepper is another MSIA big-wig. GTD is a creation of whole team of MSIA people who designed it, and are selling it. It exists not just on the level of alleged personal organization. It also exists on a META-LEVEL, in terms of what they are trying to DO to you, without your awareness. Take 5 steps back, and look how its designed, sold, promoted, and the up-selling to MSIA linked services. Also, notice the extreme and histrionic intolerance for criticism or analysis from some of the GTD "followers". » POSTED IN:
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