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Mail App & Gmail?

I use Apple's mail.app for everyday email, and had been using it for business purposes as well. But now with a job shift I needed a new, non-private email address and got a gmail account. The question is, am I better off operating gmail through the mail.app interface? Or reserving mail.app for regular personal stuff and moving all the business (publishing) stuff over to gmail? Or forwarding everything from gmail to mail.app? Or? Or?

I've read everything I could find on the subject, and while it's been informative it hasn't nudged me toward a useful either/or. I'll be dealing with a lot of incoming manuscripts that want reading and responding and rejecting or filing away for future use. Previously this stuff came to me via an intermediary; now it'll come directly to my gmail address, published on the publisher's website.


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Carla's picture

Here's one best-of-both worlds approach:...

Here's one best-of-both worlds approach: download with Mail.app, and have Gmail automatically archive your downloads.

Here's a screencapture of that choice in the settings (choice #2):

That way, you can use Mail.app as you have become accustomed, and yet you 1) have a backup of your business mail in Gmail, and 2) can reaccess your business mail from anywhere. Plus, if you reply to email in Gmail, your sent mail is downloaded with your other email, so you can file it with Sent Mail in Mail.app, just as you could (in a way) with an IMAP account. So everything's together, and not scattered between two places.

Carla's picture

For good measure, since I...

For good measure, since I know what a crankifying experience setting up a new email account can be (or, it has been for me), here's my screenshots of exactly the Mail.app settings that work for Gmail:

ahab's picture

Yoicks! That _does_ seem like...

Yoicks! That _does_ seem like a best-of-both-worlds approach.

Thanks

Carla's picture

Yoicks! That _does_ seem like...

ahab;6291 wrote:
Yoicks! That _does_ seem like a best-of-both-worlds approach.

Thanks

You are so welcome! I'm so glad I could help. Let me (us) know if you have any more questions about setting up, managing, etc. :cool:

Carla's picture

Ooh--don't forget you can download...

Ooh--don't forget you can download a .pdf of this thread (or any) for future reference (http://board.43folders.com/sendmessage.php?do=sendtofriend&t=1023">http://board.43folders.com/pdfthread.php?t=1023[/url]) or email it to your business gmail account ([url]http://board.43folders.com/sendmessage.php?do=sendtofriend&t=1023) for archivement (yes, I just made up that word). :D

popeye's picture

Mail.app fails to recognize Gmail!

I'm so tantalizingly close I can taste it, but no cigar yet. I've followed your prompts meticulously, double checking all the way, and yet I've failed to get Mail 1.3.11 to harmonize with Gmail. GoDaddy forwards my domain name messages to my ISP's email. I have my ISP set up to forward all my email to my Gmail account. I was advised to do it this rather than to forward direct to Gmail.

Well, it works fine, everything gets to my Gmail inbox with no sweat. The problem is my Mail.app will not cooperate with Gmail or the other way around. I can send from Mail.app, but not receive. While I'm not losing any mail (at least, I don't think so), I'm failing in desire to handle all my email from Mail.app. It's a pain to be obliged to read my mail at the Gmail web site.

I would be ever so grateful if you could put your finger on what I'm missing. I wish to reiterate, I'm certain I've followed all the steps in creating my Gmail account to a T.

miklb's picture

Carla, thanks, this is perfect....

Carla, thanks, this is perfect. I have switched from FF back to Safari, and doing so, dropped GTDGmail, and wanted a way to better work with QS and Actiontastic. These settings were exactly what I was looking for. Now I can look at some of the mail tagging apps, etc.

Funny how I'm migrating back to the provided apps like Safari and Mail after years of using other options.

Lyle Johnson's picture

I've followed Carla's instructions about...

I've followed Carla's instructions about how to use Gmail's POP access, etc. and it's working great -- with one little snag.

Is there any way to avoid downloading all of the new messages from my Gmail account? I'm subscribed to a mailing list with pretty heavy traffic, and I'd just as soon leave those archived at Gmail and never have them downloaded to Mail.app. I've set up a filter in Gmail that tells it to "Skip Inbox" and "Archive" messages from that mailing list, but it seems that they still get downloaded to Mail.app when I POP in.

The closest workaround I've come up with so far is to add a rule in Mail.app that says to immediately trash those mail messages when it downloads them -- but it will still of course download them first, which is a drag.

Any ideas on how to work around this?

dancingbrook's picture

Is there any way to...

Lyle Johnson;8181 wrote:
Is there any way to avoid downloading all of the new messages from my Gmail account?...I'm subscribed to a mailing list with pretty heavy traffic, and I'd just as soon leave those archived at Gmail and never have them downloaded to Mail.app.... Any ideas on how to work around this?

My Suggestion: Setup a second gmail acct (maybe lyleslists@g....com) for those lists and groups, and don't POP that gmail acct. That would be easiest.

Google is generous with it's accts. Don't over do it though.

RabbiRob's picture

One solution I came up...

One solution I came up with a month or so ago has worked well for me thus far.
Since GMail does not support IMAP, I elected to do the following:
1. I signed up for a free email provider that supports IMAP. I found that AOL has 2 GB of storage and supports IMAP, so I signed up with them.
2. I forwarded all email from GMail to my new AOL address.
3. I configured Mail.app to connect to the AOL address for IMAP, but SMTP uses GMail.

It's mite bit convoluted, but it allows me to still use my GMail address - nobody needs to know the AOL address. If I don't have my MBP with me, I can still read and send message on the web.

Of course, I'm at my work PC, so I can't look at the technical configurations (ports, server addresses, etc.) right now. But if it's required, I can post them later.

 
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